Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. I'd take it to a gunsmith or a local shop with glock experience before it gets made worse. -Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria, This is a decent video to check out to double check. BrianEnos.com The triggers arent nearly as drop in as theyd like to make them out to be. The problem is, that when I keep the trigger depressed, the gun sometimes hesitates when returning to battery about 1/4" from seating. My friend is having an issue with his 80% glock 19. Ive tried swapping the extensions to different mag bodies for what its worth and the result is the same. The first suggestion comes directly from the troubleshooting section of the Armorer's manual. Have you tried shooting it? AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Based on your answers, I would suggest (2) things. Is there something specific i should look at on the mags? This is also why I ended up trying the Timney. Glock slide not going into battery, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK-5Fw3yjcM. So let's make sure we understand this situation. Its never happened with the factory barrel. The simple thing seems to be that something did not go back together right. How long are the mounting screws for the RDS? I checked and it looks fine. Your link has been automatically embedded. Thank you! Shoot the crap out of it. I have not stripped the slide but I'm sure I could figure it out if the issue is there. Wish I could look at it directly. The second came from the Instructor I took the course from. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. I have a couple Dawson and Henning magazine extensions. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. Clear editor. This condition would be even worse if I had a round in the chamber and loaded magazine. It's only had failures to go to battery when I milked the slide. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. How are you sending the slide forward? what I was trying to reference was the ' striker safety spring'. Like polishing amounts? Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! The problem is when the slide slams forward. Nice pull and crisp break. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Out of a 10 round mag, it averaged 2 or 3 times. The trigger bar and connector are polished but no metal reshaped or removed. Does the gun run OK or is it failing to go into battery during live fire? It appears that the safety plunger spring was laying sideways instead of inside the safety plunger. It's as if the holding of the trigger is holding back the slide somehow. Did you completely strip the frame when you changed connectors or just the trigger assembly? I initially chalked it up to the recoil spring being too light or a magazine issue, but it's still happening after swapping the stock, barely used RSA back in, and it has happened with all of the extensions. I have a brand new Gen4 Glock 17, which the only "upgrade" I have done is change the connector to a Taran Tactical one. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. Does anyone have any suggestions? Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. thats one of my fears. is the cruciform on the trigger bar seated properly in the trigger mechanism housing? If this checks out 17 pounds is for 40 S&W. Haha.). Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. Is this RSA going to $hit already? JavaScript is disabled. I don't know if that is the problem, but thank you for trying to help. Back up a step that you took, and test,.. ie,.. swap the Timney back out. You cannot paste images directly. "Laws that forbid the carrying of armsdisarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimesSuch laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." I am not LE but I was able to take the course just had to drive a hour to where they were having it. that should fix it for sure, I assume you are using the "U" shaped washer as well ? Clear editor. so, not a G20 but nearly all G17/19 I built or had the opportunity to help had the part that sticks up on the trigger assembly that pushes on the firing pin safety too high. I had a friend of mine install the 3.5 connector with the NY1 trigger spring on my old Glock 19. There is a lot of stuff interacting to make the gun work and sometimes it can be hard to figure out. Or like actually hitting it with a file some? Display as a link instead, Pull out a round that chokes the pistol in the manner you are describing. I have Timney triggers in two Glock 17 Gen 4 MOS pistols that I run in USPSA CO. Just wanted to point out that you can limp wrist with both hands on the gun and if everything is stock like you said, and you truly believe it has only been fired once, I default to user error. My 19 does that but when I shoot everything seems to be OK. If you need to smooth the face on the cruciform, I've found that a super fine file works best. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This allowed the rear trigger housing to raise up and give me battery/jamming issues as well. "If I could have banned them all - 'Mr. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I bought a LW threaded barrel direct from Gemtech last year for my suppressor. If the slide goes into battery with this test, you've got other issues. You cannot paste images directly. Is it safe to shoot? SJ 40, thank you! If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. I totally get this. When you are normally shooting, your trigger is still pulled back when the slide returns. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. Assuming you called Glock, how did they respond to this issue? Display as a link instead, Ohthis is all with the muzzle pointing straight up. We also have Glock related articles like Tools Used . Thanks for the suggestion. Do the RSA's need lube? Something is WRONG, either modifications, misassembled, or maintenance. I'm assuming the recoil spring isn't the issue since it's only been fired one time. There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. Maybe he did something to the slide? When I press the slide release it loads just fine. I thought of that, but wouldnt a heavier (ie: factory) spring make the issue more likely?, since with the timney its getting cocked as the slide returns to battery? Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. I think the mag springs might have been pretty tight too, 'cause mine seemed to want to hang on the first couple of rounds out of the mag. Maryland Shooters is the most active and largest Maryland gun community online. 4 Reply SuccMySquanch 8 mo. If it does, you may want to look into a ligher recoil spring kit to continue using your existing loads. Interesting. Maybe ne messed something up in the slide. *********************************************, [URL]https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?campaignid=XI026751. BrianEnos.com Unlike aftermarket the factory connectors are true drop in and usually dont need adjustments. Be sure to check out our gun classifieds where you can buy, sell or trade your gear. If this is only an issue when easing the slide forward than it may not be an issue at all. UPDATE! Its light but mushy. If it goes into battery completely then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. Another test I've seen done is to load a magazine completely full. Is this RSA going to $hit already? If it were me I would use a calipers to take some measurements of your OEM slide rail slots from front to back versus your new Suarez slide front to back,I suspect you will discover differences. ago I'm not missing a pin I just put the wrong one in, and that's honestly what I thought, I'll try to fix it and see if it helps 1 Reply I've read through a lot of the big thread on the Timney Trigger, and have searched, and haven't been able to find similar malfunctions happening with the Timney. It definitely had the issue less today (not every mag) but its still doing it. This is a brand new firearm and before you fired even one round down range you took it apart and modified it thus you have no baseline performence to know what the firearm was doing before you "improved" it. I run Zev guide rods and adapter rings on my Gen4 17 and 21, along with ISMI recoil springs that are 15lb rated. To eliminate grip issues, have you had anyone else try to replicate the issue with a different box of ammo? buddy19 In the dozen or so that I have built and helped build, I have never had a need to 'file' down a trigger bar safety tab. Win A Colt 1911 Tomb Of The Unknown Soldier 45acp, Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section, Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses, View up to date on firearm-related events. Have you tried it with the factory barrel? Hope yours breaks in and the issue clears itself up. It does once I release (reset) the trigger. Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! moved the trigger spring up on the trigger bar. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Never an issue with limp wristing so far. If you really want to fly, get out of the plane. Upload or insert images from URL. How much did you need to take off? The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Buy some higher power factor ammo for the next (200) rounds. The Glock in question is the G-30SF .45ACP. Thank you for that great info! All Rights Reserved. I just made the switch to CO from Production with my 34.5 MOS. I recall him going into the slide then saying "wait, I don't have to mess with this." Paste as plain text instead, Ill be glad when theyre done and I can go back to the 4.0 lb spring. If it would close unless you let the trigger forwardthen it fails the test. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. I am shooting my handloads right now it is 124 but will go back to 115 once this batch runs out. Usually, what the OP is describing is a problem somewhere else in the gun. Can also try downloading the magazine by one round. No lube should be needed on RSA. It seems like it gets caught on something when you hold the trigger back, like to test the reset, and then when you release the trigger the slide eases forward on its own. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Several years ago a local Glock shooter told me Lone Wolf is what he used. I do . You can take the Glock Armorers course and they give you one. These both assume a stock Glock so YMMV.-----I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. Got back to the range today happened a little less (still did not get any factory ammo yet) After looking at the slide there is some ware marks at some points and thinking maybe this might be little to thick on the coating i could be wrong just a thought. Others who know more might add some but I think it's not a problem and will wear in with use. For that matter, 99.99% of dirty unlubricated Glock 23's with stock parts and well worn RSA's will go into battery 99.99% of the time with all but the worst .40 cal ammo. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! If not HELP PLEASE! Clear editor. I must thank everyone for the replies, you all are the best. I ride the reset BTW - if I didnt, it would be fine. no Go on the back plate do not have one.. Glock 36's historically dislike certain ammo's, you just need to find the ammo it likes. Its light but mushy. Ammo from the same box will fire fine in my 92A1 and P228, and G19 with the factory barrel. Sorry about that. Pics to come soon. I have noticed that my G26 spring has been failing the recoil spring test.as of late. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. I'm going to investigate your suggestions. I've got a 3rd gen G19 that I use as a suppressor host. If you completely stripped it, listen to alma. The slide stops with the top bullet in the magazine stuck against the feed ramp. You may post anything as long as it is related to the Glock line of pistols, and you are not spamming our sub with your advertisements, sales, YouTube channel. If the firing pin did not drop then chances are that is the issue. I noticed that sometimes when I shoot, it will not go into battery (cycles fine otherwise) until I release the trigger. This did the trick. If you have a weak spring, the slide won't go back into battery if you slowly let it move upwards against gravity. My G21 Gen 4 would do the same thing from time to time when it was brand new. But after doing some research, I shouldn't be surprised that a guy who got arrested for ripping off his LEO department, and even got his wife arrested for it too, would hier less than professional crew. You can post now and register later. If it does, its hitting that bump too high. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Let my aim be true and my hand faster than those who would seek to destroy me. Several failures to go into battery per magazine? I have played with many Glock triggers and trigger parts since then, both Glock and aftermarket selections, looking for that secret sauce. I bought a Suarez milled RMR cut slide for my Glock 19 Gen 3 and if I pin the trigger after a shot, it almost never goes back into battery, which makes sense, but sometimes when I shoot correctly and don't pin the trigger it still doesn't go back into battery. I will look into it. have you considered maybe tossing the Timney in the trash and going back to the trigger youve used for the past 11,000 rounds and using that? *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. I think the increased slide weight is preventing the rsa from becoming fully compressed during the recoil cycle using the handloads. Usually a problem in the op rod channel or a rail problem. Timney should be a little more straightforward with their instructions. Slide not fully returning to battery while trigger hasn't been reset (G19) So I have a G19, cerakoted slide. I ordered a pierce +0 grip extension that should take care of the pinch and I'll only use round nose in it from now on. Paste as plain text instead, From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Kinda weird. I had a problem like that in my G34 when I was shooting it. Glocks are pretty simple really. 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