Regards, 4PH. I was willing to give it a pass before, but this is getting absurd. And yes, with the exception of the Pison picture above (by MetalMiku), those extra portraits were things I whipped up entirely on my own (though HelloWinter did give me some raw materials for an Olvan oneso you also have her to thank for helping this update come faster). Poison, which actually happens to be a spellthat costs 0 MPand hits your Guard rather than your Magicand is powered off of the user's Power instead of their magicand looks like a physical attackAnyways, in addition to hitting like a physical attack, it has a chance of inflicting the Poison stat on you that's influenced by how high your Magic is. That would be the planet we live on. If you get lucky beating this thing, well, needless to say, money isn't going to be a concern for a long while, though with a Topaz, our revenues don't exceed the cost of beating this stupid thing by much. R-Pison: RRRRRRAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!! The Gate of Earth in Rablesk is closed. Game Genie. I've been expecting medicine from Rablesk. I met another of King Lemele's warriors only a minute ago. Uh, no, this is wrong. NAME: Kamil. B Power --- Bottle of Power, doubles . As for Lejes, he won't need to do that, so he'll want to buy this Nature Sword with the money from Melenam. I don't know how many times you've been abused by usbut, I promise you, this will be the last time you will ever suffer at our hands. Hopefully this montage helps to shed some light on wh. Oh, I'm getting married soon. You'll see later. It's timetime to get the coveted Wind Rune, sitted deep within the bowls of the frozen earth. The 7th Saga (known as Elnard in Japan) is an RPG for the SNES, released in 1993.It is known for one thing, and that is difficulty.. You choose your main character from one of seven apprentices: a fighter, a dwarf, an elf, an alien, a robot Tetujin, a priest, and a demon.Trained by the wise King Lemele, you must venture out into the oddly desolate world in search of seven Runes. This patch uses my beta decompressed graphics patch to add the uncensored Elnard graphics back into 7th saga. Any comments, questions, suggestionscomplaints? Yoursmay vary by or. well ok then . If you do have one though, all of the sudden, the fight just got a lot easier, and in fact, it's basically the only way that most characters can beat this monstrosity at these low levels Fortunately, we are not most characters, and though Esuna wasn't lucky enough to get the Mirror Trick to work, she WAS lucky enough to dodge two blows, allowing her to blast this monstrosity with Ice 2, which is basically just Ice, except it does around 30 more points of Damage to most monsters and costs 12 MP instead of 3 MP. Display as a link instead, R-Pison: It's me, Pison. And for those two, get either Kamil or Olvan (whoever you aren't using) to join your party at Level 14, replace their gear with gear from Lemele and/or Rablesk without selling it, then slap that gear on the character you're playing as. Also, despite ICE2 technically having 52 more SpellPower than ICE, it's really more like only 31 extra points of damage since most monsters will have a good amount of resistance (though monsters at this point of the game only have resistances of like, 10-20, so that damage gap is something like 35-39 points right now), Damage = Magic/2 + (Random number from 0-15). The Japanese transilteration was added on the box as a reading aid for the Japanese players. After these five years, I'm quite used to having you around. I'm a bit slow due to my age, but I'll be young again when I have the power of the Runes. So that about wraps up this update. Beginners Tips and Tricks The Almighty Tilde Key (~) In the current version 1.01.1, there is a hidden speed faster than "turbo", which happens if you press and hold down the ~ key. Well guys, voting time is now over, and here are our results And it seems Esuna is the winner! Now, first of all, let's go over some basics. Does anybody know how I can figure this out? I still think there's more to share and delve into than even the excellent job done by this LPer here given here (in particular, he gets into some good analysis in the "Intermission" segments). However, if you happen to be either Lux or Wilme, you'll want to buy, IN THIS EXACT ORDER, 3x B. The films have been in production since 2007, and in that time Marvel Studios has produced and released 31 films, with at least 11 more in various stages . GOD TIER: 1) Valsu. Does it not sound like a cataclysm has just occurred here? But if you bring a partner with you, that reduces the levels you'll both be at all the way to Level 27 by that point in the game, and while that's not crippling per say (as long as you have a well balanced team), it's definitely not what you'll want, therefore, I still count it as a beginner's trap. It is a turn-based Role-Playing Game for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System in the vein of the Dragon Quest series. People will look at you differently when you are more experienced. Brantu: I'm sorry you won't join us. You must go now. This game features seven different characters, each searching for the seven magical runes. Winball --- Wind ball, allows you to teleport to any town previously. Name: The 7th Saga. 1. veilrap 10 yr. ago. Here is a pic of the graphics that were added back into 7th saga. Esuna: As a magician handpicked by Lemele himself, Esuna is full of talent and anxious to prove it. In the House of Healing, you can be treated for poison, and recover your lost companions. Your journey will be much easier if you have it. How boosts were supposed to increase by one for every stat every 10 levels? In fact, with enough luck, I can usually end up with up to 3 spare B.Protects, though you should never assume you'll be so lucky in a game like this. Your journey will be easier with the map. So if you want to know why Chimera's are so tough, well, there's your answer. Still unsure as to whether or not the minimalistic approach was the right one to take, because while I don't like it when a story is super barebones, I also don't want the horrible script that games like Mega Man X5 and X7 had. The game is particularly known for its unforgiving difficulty, largely due to the American release reducing the amount of attribute points the player character gains upon leveling up. Well, the answer is simple: it's a well-known fact by now that the Japanese version (Elnard) of the game is much easier than the U.S. version (The 7th Saga), but the differences go so much deeper than that! This Community Day runs the 2pm to 5pm timeslot with raids running from 5pm to 10pm. However, going this route for almost everything past this route is inefficient and slow so, after beating R-Pison back down to where an ICE2 can kill him, Valsu will unfortunately have to go. Here's what we're looking out for this month. It may not seem that way at first due to his middling HP and lackluster growths in everything but Speed, but he is in fact surprisingly useful despite these shortcomings. Your mission soldier, if you choose to accept it, is to march ALL the way to that there cave to the left while listening to this awesome music, my third favorite track in the game! Monsters search their victims for any money they may be carrying. What was their origin? The 7th Saga soundtrack is an intriguing mystery, a beautifully executed curiosity that plays counter to almost all JRPG clichs and norms. Wilme (the fire guy) is also alright, albeit a bit bland. You've almost got oh, right, he can do thatand in fact, if he had 2 more MP, he'd be able to cast a single Blizzard2 spell as wellbut he doesn't, soagain, not sure what they were going for with him. Otherwise you may sell it for 1500G! What Mogri said was that the random number was between 0.8-1.2, though even Nitrodon, one of the two who worked on the TAS of this game, told me it was 0.8-1.2 until I pointed out that the boss of the next update was doing a damage range that was impossible given that formula. It's that one dude that NPC warned us about! Watch out! Yeah of course the chracters are canon. Characters. ATTRIBUTES: The opposite of a fighter, all equip is of light type, best spells available. It's your turn this time and you will perish. I believe you all have a general idea of what we're doing next. Anyways, that long tangent aside, let's head into Rablesk And get one of the games most valuable items, the Stat Seed! I wish someone would take the Key of Earth away from Romus. So unless my enemies have some sort of multi-target attack (which a lot of enemies will by the endgame), I have absolutely no reason to fear for Esuna. I also couldn't understand english as well as I do now so I got lost a lot, I wonder how well I'd fare now. In case you forgot, this is the Cave of Earth right here, just south of Rableskwhat will await us here? ), hamstringing the growths of many of the apprentices (COUGHKamilCOUGH), and also taking away what was by far the players most valuable assetsElnard growths. The 7th Saga. My goal is to find the Runes and drive all evil forces out of this world. Valsu: I've been looking for you because I need your help. And how have they been changed, if at all, from the original version? In my opinion, the answer is no, and even though his higher HP goes a long way in making him more durable than Kamil (ESPECIALLY against magic), his accuracy woes, limited magic capabilities (though he does have many healing spells), and lack of good offense outside of extremely costly equipment (Kamil at least has Vacuum) will cause him to lag far behind anyone not named Kamil: As a knight from the nation of Padal, Kamil is level headed and blessed with a strong sense of justice as well as incredible discipline that has allowed him to succeed in mastering almost all forms of magic, including most of the healing magicks. Rook has Mark Prey, Yrsa has Slag & Burn, Ludin or Tryggvi (or Bak) have Impale and movement shenanigans, Ekkil (or Hogun, Mogun, Dagr, Gudmundr and Egil) can probably still use Guts to some effect. I've heard of the Runes before. This thing will actually take you back to ANY town you previously visited, again, for free! While I appreciate your zeal and mistrust of Lejes, I'm not exactly comfortable with the idea of someone enacting their own brand of vigilante justice on the worldjust saying. The civilization of Melenam flourished in an ancient time. They are cool. Is there anything you wish for me to do differently or anything like that, or is my way of doing things fine? Yes, some bosses will actually have extra dialogue that they'll say if you die Too bad most people will never actually see it because this is the damage he does after I use my B. Were you supposed to meet him? I'll be the greatest scholar when I learn why Melenam vanished. If you then evolve Slowpoke during the Community Day hours (or in the 5 hours following), your Slowbro & Slowking will know an exclusive move. So in case you haven't figured it out yet, yes, Lux is one of these "Tetujin", and none of them remember their past very clearly. I really wish I could either read Japanese or have someone versed in it explain to me what she means by this, because the game emphasizes "Dream", but I cannot for the life of me figure out what it might refer to. Grind to Level 13 if you're Kamil or Olvan, and 12 if you're anyone else Then, if you're anyone but Kamil or Olvan, recruit Valsu into your partner, and reset if he's less than Level 12. I'll hope for your safe return. Don't think that it'll be a cakewalk though, because this new guy on the right? The dog's name was named Romus, and he's haunted the castle since then. The 7th Saga, called Elnard (?) I decided next update that I'm going to do my best to convey just how brutal this particular section can be with Esuna if you're not careful. Sometimes, these characters will aid the player in finding runes, while other times they may fight each other for the runes . Talk to people wherever you go and help anyone who is in trouble. The "Earth" in the Cave/Key of Earth isn't translated - it's the English word in katakana. As you may have guessed, if an apprentice turns you down at first, the game will change their response five battles after it assigns them their initial response, so basically, all you have to do is fight anywhere from 1-5 fights to get a different reaction. But as long as we're here, why don't we see what the townsfolk have to say? You see, no matter what your Guard is, no matter how powerful your foes attack, B. Protects will actually halve the damage of every single physical attack for the whole battle! This on the other hand can be a problem. Your experience and years of rigorous training will help you to successfully complete your mission. I wish I were Tetujin! People believe it disappeared into the bottom of the ocean, to the west. But does that really justify using him despite his decidedly lackluster stat growths? Because Trying Times Are Times For Trying - Let's Play "The 7th Saga"! visited. Feel free to let me know, alright? Not only that, but they can also heal themselves with Heal 1 as well as HPCatcher. I'll hope for your safe return. ORIGINAL SNES CLASSIC CARTRIDGE! I'll give each of you a Crystal Ball. Of course, getting them to join will become trickier as you go further into the game, as once you get to either the next town or the town after that, they will start moving around the list of towns anywhere from 4-11 fights after the game assigns them a location (and that's not me guesstimating, the game is just random like that). So here's the thing. After all, he can easily attack using his axe. and published by Enix for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System in 1993. Seriously, what's with this random emphasis on unimportant words? Using DEFENSE cuts physical attack damage in half, which HELPS you to have more HP, but DOES NOT increase it! Every bit of text, with a few exceptions, are the same regardless of who you choose, though Olvan IS given access to some money that you wouldn't be able to get otherwise. Kamil: I've been looking for you! This is Fionordequester signing out. I MUST PRO" says something far more ominous and spoilery in Japanese. Notable unique innovations include the use of a crystal ball "radar" that allows players to see enemies approaching their character in dungeons and in the overworld. Start with 297 gold by Galoob. -Ice1 is plenty. This is me actually changing the order in which my characters attack, so if a round of combat starts, I can choose who I want to attack. Defense's, the reason being that the B. Well, first of all, as you're leveling up through the game, these guys will always fight or join you at anywhere from a level lower than you to a level higher than you, and when the game gives them their stats, IT WILL GIVE THEM THE ELNARD BOOSTS! In fact, nobody except Valsu has any business being here any earlier than Level 7, and Valsu's only special because he learns the spell version of a B. Unfortunately I can't recommend it unless you cheat your way past the game's obscene difficulty but you shouldn't have to resort to those means to enjoy a game. The player chooses one of seven playable characters, all of whom separately embark on a quest to locate seven magical runes. As the player progresses through the game from one town to the next, they will encounter the other six characters on multiple occasions. I'm heading there right now. Elnard was developed and originally released in Japan, and later localized as The 7th Saga. And now with Romus out of the picture, all the monsters disappear from the castle, meaning that we can now get those chests that we had to skip before! And then of course, if your TotalAttack is so low that your opponent's TotalDefense reduces it to a negative number despite having been cut in half beforehand, then you just do one damage instead. Yes, but no Topaz: You don't have a Topaz for me. Many RPG's from the past expected you to grind at least a few levels before moving one foot from your home town, and in fact, even Elnard Wilme was required to grind out a level here before bending the early game over his kneethat being said though Battle in a World of Light (Overworld Battle Theme). You'll get a remote from him. The sound of it will put his soul to rest. Game Genie. It's yours. Defense. Good, but, why do you ask? This way, your HP will temporarily increase. If Lux: Walk quietly, will you! This forum is telling me "you are not allowed to use this image extension" without actually telling me what the offending "image extension" is. Unfortunately however, due to the hostility he draws from Lejes and Wilme (and Esuna, but she's not a good endgame partner anyways), his ability to recruit partners for the endgame suffers somewhat, meaning more overall time lost by convincing the apprentices to join him. In fact, really the only reason they can survive this fight to begin with at their levels is that they'll usually have extra money from buying a cheaper piece of armor than the Mages, and, therefore, extra Mirrors. Lemele: When you have all of the Runes together, they will give you tremendous power and you will become the leader of this world! I'll give you this Map to show my appreciation. So, that's everyone! He also has one attack ability, Ice 1, which will help immensely should you choose to go solo with him. The Crystal Ball will be useful in the fields and dungeons. Ha! Characters. But just how did this happen to begin with? Will you think it over? THEN get Valsu into your party, because at Level 12, he learns the Agility spell, and I'm sure you're seeing the possibilities for that . Not really sure why we didn't just join up to begin with, but, details details! I just met a person who said the same thing. Romus is not evil, but the King of Aran is. Hope you'll find it. Pay attention to the wording of that last screenshot. Also, the game shows a rare example of time travel that can occur without the need for time paradoxes. Since The 7th Saga is firmly within the crimson grasp of Satan, this is unlikely, though it does lead one to wonder just what Enix was thinking when they translated this monstrosity as opposed to Dragon Quest V. THE ANSWER: They weren't thinking at all. Itachi Uchiha made the ultimate sacrifice. But before we finish this We fill up on MHerbs and also get a good amount of B. "The 7th Saga" was set to have a sequel in the Japanese release "Mystic Ark," but it was never localized as a true sequel, which is a shame. EDIT: And just because I would feel bad for not posting MetalMiku's magnificent work in full Before making another message, I thought I'd make a point of taking whatever interesting tidbits about the game that the Something Awful forums posted, and posting it in the other forums I have this on. Would you be interested? from what I've read, the game is described as good, but underknown. Now, we haven't introduced Elemental Resistance yet, but for the most part, monsters will have anywhere from 30-40 Elemental Resistances to all kinds of spells (with late-game enemies getting a lot more than that towards their Debuff and Vacuum resistance), meaning that most SpellBonuses will end up being cut by 30% to 40% before the formula coughs it up to be added to the above formula. And THIS will be seeing a lot of use soon. I can't imagine the power I might have when I get the Runes. Privacy Policy. That being said however, let's try NOT to have to do that. A new short has been revealed by Pokmon Shanghai. Valsu: I've spent my whole life as a healer, treating the afflicted people of this world. But what about joining you may ask? The seven characters state their goal at the beginning of the game: Wilme the alien: "I can't imagine the power I might have when I get the Runes." Lux the tetsujin: "During this journey, I wish to find who built us Tetsujins and for what purpose." Olvan the dwarf: "I'll be young again when I have the power of the Runes." Kamil the human: "I'm the best suited for the . It featured 7 playable characters of various types including humans, an elf, a dwarf, robots, a demon, and an alien. 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