And easy to carry too. These were advertised as being chambered for the .44 Colt/Russian because they will also shoot the .44 Russian cartridges. Meanwhile, the .44 Spls recoil is mild as milk. They were derived in a stair step fashion. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. Velocity spreads with Titegroup shrank from 65 fps with RNFP bullets to 20 fps with wadcutters. The .44Spl is a wonderful cartridge in the GP-100 and a bit of a handful in the Charter Arms Bulldog Pug when loading jacketed bullets although big, heavy, slow lead bullets work just fine. There was a guy on here some years ago who regularly shot 44 Russian cases in his 44-40 Henry, using a modified carrier to feed the shorter round. Add that to its limited penetration potential, and the Special isnt exactly a stellar hunting cartridge. And yet for some reason folks just can't resist trying something just because it will fit, or because it's close enough. However, the zippier speed produced by the Magnum definitely gives it an edge in the accuracy/trajectory department. On 44 WCF its .471. That means theres plenty more .44 Magnum ammo and firearm variety. I have a pair of Uberti 44WCF revos and purchased two 44 Special cylinders and fitted to these revolvers and to shoot 44 Russian. Cowboy 44 44 Magnum Cowboy .44 Magnum 180 Grain TCFP BLACK Hi-Tek Coated Lead Cowboy Action~100% Hand-Loaded!! For loading I use Oregon Trails 225- and 240-gr. (I) Giveaway ends March 31, 2023. I got a stainless Non fluted cylinder gp100 then found a blued 5 inch on CDNN for $500. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. Two of those revolvers ended up in this camp, a Richards Type II conversion with a 5" barrel and the Richards-Mason conversion with an 8" barrel. Although insanely popular in the early 20th century, the Special almost went the way of the dinosaur after the introduction of its faster, harder-hitting, and more popular younger brother, the .44 Remington Magnum. However, like most pistol cartridges, the .44 Magnum "wakes up" out of a carbine length rifle barrel. However, this cartridge is ultra-mild in the recoil department while still providing plenty of accuracy and energy at self-defense ranges. Maybe you just like to go out on a weekend and shoot the "Guns that Won the West" or that your favorite TV and movie cowboy heroes toted. The choice is simple: Buy the .44 Magnum..Hand load to .22 Special specs. They changed the grip frame of the American, adding a small hump at the top of the backstrap, preventing the pistol from sliding in the hand under recoil. If all that cowboy has ever seen is a stockdam, he ain't gonna believe ya when ya tell him about whales. If they feed, go for it. The Russian fits in the Special cylinder just fine. Since the Russians promised to pay for their S&W Model #3 in gold, the company was happy to accept their idea. Contest void where prohibited by law. This gives .44 Mag an edge in accuracy over .44 Special in some weapons, but the reality is that the difference will likely be imperceivable to most shooters. As a cartridge for the Hand Ejector, First Model .44 (nicknamed triplelock) they introduced a wild and crazy idea. The .44 Special was the preferred cartridge for this task, as there were more varied projectiles made for it, and the revolvers of the daysuch as the S&W Triple Lock, Colt New Service and SAAhad thicker cylinder walls in .44 than in .45 Colt. Can a 44 magnum shoot 44 Special? Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. To ensure we had as close to an apples-to-apples comparison as possible, we looked at Noslers load data. 44-40 or 44WCF are larger diameter cases like 45 Colt cases then bottle necked to a .427 bullet. In late 1907 the .44 Russian sired its son, the .44 Special, and was around in late 1955 to see its grandson, the .44 Magnum arrive. Reloading dies are available from most manufacturers. Grizzly Bear Charge Stopped with a .44 Magnum Arizona - ( Ammoland.com )- The video was filmed by Leon Lorenz on 14 June, 2010. Several here do what you describe. The extra space allows loaders to pack 4.4 more grains of propellant into the .44 Mag. He warped around at the speed of heat, immediately striking and striking again while I desperately crab-walked backward, one-handing shots at him while he, Rival Arms expands its offerings with the X1 Red Dot, a 3 MOA red dot ideally suited for use on defensive pistols, target pistols, rifles, hunting and Quite possibly, for the very first time, all three Gun Cranks agree on something open carry is stupid! The vast majority of .44 Spl loads are marketed for cowboy action shooting. He warped around at the speed of heat, immediately striking and striking again while I desperately crab-walked backward, one-handing shots at him while he, Rival Arms expands its offerings with the X1 Red Dot, a 3 MOA red dot ideally suited for use on defensive pistols, target pistols, rifles, hunting and Quite possibly, for the very first time, all three Gun Cranks agree on something open carry is stupid! The extra case space holds slightly more powder, and slightly more powder creates more pressure. The .44 Spl has been mostly kept alive by custom handloaders and cowboy action shooters. Likewise, .44 Magnum can still make for an excellent hunting revolver if you can handle the recoil. BTW, before the Magnum was even thought of the .44 S&W Special was the Bullseye Competition Cartridge of Choice for many years. I've met people who wanted to shoot everything from a 38 S&W (because he could force them in the chambers) to a 38 Super (because most of them went off) in their 357 Mag revolvers. The key is good shot placement at close range. [2], In the early 1870s, General Alexander Gorloff, the military attach assigned to the Russian Embassy in Washington, D.C., approached Smith & Wesson about the possibility of negotiating a military sales contract for the purchase of a large number of Smith & Wesson Model 3 revolvers for the Imperial Russian Army. Box 1926, Escondido, CA 92033. Because the .44 Mag cruises about 1.5 times faster than the .44 Special, it spends less time getting to the target. Keith partnered with Smith & Wesson and Remington Arms and the cartridge was introduced onto the market in 1956. All the major bullet manufacturers, including Sierra, Nosler, and Hornady, have multiple options for .429-inch bullets. Home; Categories. As we mentioned earlier, the effects of recoil on shooter accuracy shouldnt be denied. Shooting 44 Specials And 44 Russians In Our 44 Magnums For That Extra Hoot FortuneCookie45LC 63.6K subscribers Subscribe 5.5K views 5 years ago The often mentioned fouling and residue buildup. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. of Universal for just under 760 fps and 1 groups. just wish yall had a share feature with these articles. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. Eight major concealed carry insurance programs are now available to the millions of Americans who carry concealed. What are you going to do if there's a knockdown target ? Smith & Wesson released their new wheel gun chambered for a more modern .44-caliber cartridge - the .44 Smith & Wesson Special. Early version Amadeo-Rossi R92 SS, 1/4 cock safety. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. The most accurate bullet Ive found in this .44 Russian is the RCBS #44-200CM over 5.0 grs. The .44 Russian still provides much pleasurable shooting. The result was the same velocity with the same 246-grain round-nose lead bullet, affectionately known as a Flying Ashtray due to being large and slow. .45 Schofield brass works better. of Universal is right at 720 fps, while 5.0 grs. But in 1956 Keith's efforts culminated in the introduction of the .44 Magnum. Named Model #3, it was chambered for the .44 Henry, same as used in Winchesters Model 1866 rifles and carbines. 30 Super Carry; 429 DE Magnum; 8mm Lebel; 9x21mm IMI; 9x23 Win . The group was the Russian military and the new cartridge was the .44 Russian. Of course, Russian and Special .44s can be safely fired in .44 Magnum revolvers, but I freely admit nowadays Im far fonder of shooting the Russian version from Navy Arms replica 3rd Model No. Contest void where prohibited by law. God, Liberty. (In fact, they'll chamber the .44 Special cartridges.) I like them both and carry the stainless in the winter. I doubt if the round would even go off as the firing pin would hit off center. Contest void where prohibited by law. When combining these two with a .44 Magnum Carbide sizing die Im not only reliving a major part of sixgun history Im also able to turn out first-class .44 Russian handloads. Below, from left Higher pressure generates more energy and pushes the bullet at a higher velocity. Mag. If its strong enough to take down a black bear, it can certainly stop two-legged predators. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. Save my name and email to use for future comments. First introduced in 1907, the .44 Special was notedlike its predecessorfor being controllable, accurate and potent enough for most purposes including law enforcement and sport shooting. (I) Giveaway ends September 30, 2022. The .44 Magnum had a surge in popularity in the 1970s after Clint Eastwoods Dirty Harry character referred to it as the most powerful handgun in the world.. The non-necked design makes it a viable option for areas that restrict hunting with necked-down cartridges. Then you can use a 240 jacketed bullet and 24.8 gr of H110 to get 1400fps for a stout .44 magnum load. Deployed military should use stateside address. kids that hunt and fish dont mug old ladies, I have a couple of questions about your load Do you lube the round balls at all What is your over all length And is there any crimp involved. However, even the scoffing macho dudes at the gun range will shoot more accurately with a milder recoiling cartridge like the .44 Spl. Some people use a .428 bullet in 44-40 and that same bullet can be used in 44 Russian and .44 Spl-Mag. I have a model 329 PD 44 magnum that I put a S&W stainless steel fluted cylinder on and removed the titanium one it came with. S&W chambered the Model #3 Russian and the New Model #3, both single action top-breaks, in .44 Russian. Associated taxes and fees will be the responsibility of the winner. It is usually a 44 casing loaded with lead shot. Deployed military should use stateside address. not. I've 'made' .455 brass but .45 long colt brass is on the thick side when you trim it that short. S&W wanted to enter the large frame, swing-out cylinder market. Rounds Per Box: 50 $ 49.99 Add to wishlist Add to cart 142 in stock (can be backordered) 44 Magnum Cowboy .44 Magnum in "Wells Fargo" Ammo Bag! Taurus - 444 Raging Bull 6.5in 44 Magnum Matte Stainless 6RD. The black powder charge was 23 grains. For hunting, either with a rifle or a handgun, the .44 Remington Magnum is capable of taking even the toughest game animals. Handloaders can choose from almost every bullet style under the sun. Have fun! [5], In 1872, while in the US, Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovich visited the Smith & Wesson factory to review the progress of the Russian order. Since few handgun hunters risk shots beyond 50 yards, the Mag has enough oomph to handle close-range coyotes, wild boar, black bears, and even whitetail deer. Elmer Keith had pushed the envelope for years with ever heavier bullets sent downrange at faster and faster velocities. 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